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/ Re: Ormus ! The Monoatomic Achemical Gold . . . |
on: May 19th, 2009, 9:35pm |
| Started by Anadae | Post by provenant |
on May 18th, 2009, 11:55pm, Discerner wrote:Thanks! <<snip>> I just don't think I'm going to pop it and then suddenly start glowing, levitating, and shooting laser beams out of my eyes.  |
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Yeah, but I want to ... actually I'd just settle for jet boots. We should have jet boots by now.
Cheers,
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/ Re: hello |
on: May 19th, 2009, 10:04am |
| Started by provenant | Post by provenant |
Are you back?
I know it's hard to spur a community. I've checked back a few times, but nobody seemed to be home.
Felt sort of like I was wandering around in your house while you were on vacation
Good luck. I'll pop in a bit more frequently, again.
The whole dragon business is very interesting. If you can keep the twyman / gardner type trolls, who keep trying to make a gazillion dollars, away.
Cheers,
provenant
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/ Re: Ormus ! The Monoatomic Achemical Gold . . . |
on: May 18th, 2009, 11:55pm |
| Started by Anadae | Post by Discerner |
Thanks! Yes, I've spoken with people who've made and used monatomic gold, and they too speak of it as a supplement. It's definitely not a "magic pill" that will give people access to metaphysical powers. Of course, I've heard people say that this is because it's not being made "in the right way" and that this "right way" is apparently under lock and key somewhere in a vault in Georgia Tech University, but I don't really give that a lot of credit at this point. I don't think there's a conspiracy to hide the "true effects" of monatomic gold powder because I believe those effects are probably not all that Laurence Gardner is hyping them up to be. Not to say that it's all snake-oil; monatomic gold could very well be quite beneficial and helpful as a supplement. I just don't think I'm going to pop it and then suddenly start glowing, levitating, and shooting laser beams out of my eyes.
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/ Re: Ormus ! The Monoatomic Achemical Gold . . . |
on: Apr 28th, 2009, 6:29pm |
| Started by Anadae | Post by provenant |
Hmmm ...
Yes there is a lot of hype about Ormus.
However, I've made it. For quite a long time now. And, it's not some quick route to godlike powers. To me it's more like an overhyped mineral supplement.
I make it with dead sea salt and sodium hydroxide. Sodium hydroxide is also called lye. That's where the "cleaning products" angle comes in.
But actually to be more accurate with the slur, it should be "drain cleaner." And while it is the same reactant used to make Meth. It's also used to make soap.
Most of the Gardner hype about Ormus is some selective mixing of sea salt Ormus with the work of David Hudson and ORMES. Hudson coined the term. And his story is rather interesting, and can be found in many places by google-ing.
I don't think that Ormus is in anyway a substitute for what DeVere terms starfire. Starfire in the Devere writings is primarily about hormonal secretions, while Ormus is essentially de-sodiumized sea salt.
The NaOH cracks the sea salt laden water, and the minerals drop out in precipation. It's pretty basic chemistry. You raise the ph to just under 11. ("take it to 11" spinal tap ) And then you get a fluffy precipitate that settles out of the water. Siphon the water off, add distilled water, let the precipitate resettle, then rinse and repeat a couple more times to get rid of the lye residue.
When you're done you have a slimey oddly-sweet tasting mixture that consists mostly of calcium and magnesium. Sort of like milk of magnesia. Also you have the trace elements that would normally be bound into the salt water. If you take the ph too high, you also risk heavy metal contamination so you need to monitor the ph properly.
My personal results are nothing so dramatic as levitaton, etc. But rather like taking a proper amount of trace minerals we don't get in a modern diet. Magnesium for instance does a lot of wonderful things for the mind and body.
As far as any psychic dragonish things, well, amongst psi researchers such as Radin, Puthoff, and the remote viewer Joe McMoneagle, there's a common recommendation to make sure to get sufficient minerals.
Yes there's some benefits, plus it's kinda fun to play mad alchemist. Yes it does look like you're making something illegal, and yes lye can hurt you for real if you're not careful.
But just because Laurence Gardner says it's the Manna dropped to the Isralites and the replacement for the hormonal secretions of Virgins that you need to display godlike powers ... well like most things said by Sir Larry, I would advise neither believing or disbelieving but probably just ignoring.
To take the opposite side of the argument made by LG just cuz he made it is to make the same mistake as believing LG whole.
His stuff is an admixture of reality and gap-filling fantasy.
But so is the history we learned in grade-school.
Or did you really believe Columbus discovered America in 1492?
cheers,
prov
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/ hello |
on: Apr 28th, 2009, 5:53pm |
| Started by provenant | Post by provenant |
not a lot to say by way of introduction ...
just a synchronicitous drive-by registration by an rh-neg wandering dragon wonderer.
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/ Welcome! Post introductions here. |
on: Mar 23rd, 2009, 2:19pm |
| Started by Discerner | Post by Discerner |
Hello, everyone,
I began this forum back in late 2005 after the original site at http://www.dragoncourt.org went down. Things have never been very busy on this board, so I thought I'd update the look and feel of the place and see if I could just generally get things moving. Feel free to introduce yourselves in this thread.
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Excellent stuff!